Selene
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Some girls wanted to be ballerinas, I wanted to be a vampire.
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Post by Selene on Sept 2, 2008 19:59:34 GMT -6
then get off these boards! If you are so tired of us. You want to see a demon I can arrange that and it will kick your sorry a**. so f**k off.
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ghosthunter555
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most people are blind to the truth...
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Post by ghosthunter555 on Sept 4, 2008 16:42:21 GMT -6
hes just a little immature piece of s**t. he was bullied as a child and rejected by his parents. therefore as a child he searched for answers as to why he likes his mom so much. he found the answer. and look where it got him
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Post by bobbybuka on Sept 8, 2008 14:56:32 GMT -6
WOW - I gotta say, you guys really haven't offered any real help at all to "ghostgeek27" - have you? ghostgeek27...you started out explaining that your house is located on the site of an "Indian burial ground"...how do you know that's true? If you feel that your experiences are in some way related to the Native American history of the land where your home now stands, you really need to be looking up "Native American Folklore" and the history of your area in particular. I'm guessing you're someplace in Wisconsin, right? Just start out by googling the name of your city (or town or village or whatever) and just see what's on the internet about it. The Wisconsin Historical Society has a really good website that allows you to do an awful lot of "research" just on your computer without any cost! here's their site: www.wisconsinhistory.org/research.aspYou can find old newspaper articles and old pictures from different areas....I actually found quite a bit about the area where I live on that site. Anyway - find out which Native American people lived where you now live, and then look up some of their legends and beliefs....if you can, seek out an expert on the "local history" of your area. -and also, don't worry about the ouija board...the only power that a ouija board has is the power that you give it in your mind. Whatever it is that you and your friend are experiencing - you've given "it" the power to negatively affect you, and you can just as easily take away it's power over you.
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Post by smoggey on Sept 10, 2008 12:26:38 GMT -6
It cant be power of the mind lol with cuts on you and stuff u pissed it off. Go to a Church or something..
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ghosthunter555
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most people are blind to the truth...
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Post by ghosthunter555 on Sept 10, 2008 14:24:57 GMT -6
smoggeys right you know
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Post by bobbybuka on Sept 10, 2008 15:35:28 GMT -6
I'm going to respectfully disagree with that one.
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Post by smoggey on Sept 10, 2008 16:48:03 GMT -6
So a church will not help lol first thing you cant just let all these things happens would you just them happen I would'nt because I am planning to play one again.. I have said if anything happens go to a Church, not just stay their but talk to a prist either a blessing if that does not work then you will need like a median or something to come in.. But in my case if it was me I would be way gone to seek help already lol within the first cut.
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Post by bobbybuka on Sept 11, 2008 7:17:07 GMT -6
ok smoggey....you're really missing the point I tried to make...
ghostgeek27 starts out by explaining that he "knows for a fact" that his house is built on the site of an ancient "Indian Burial Ground"....or actually, it was his friend's house, wasn't it?
Well...whatever. The place where ghostgeek27 and his friend used the ouija board was supposed to be built on an ancient Indian burial ground that is supposed to be "very active" - according to ghostgeek27's original post.
So I'm saying....
Why have you and others even responded with suggestions that "Christianity" in particular will be the answer to ghostgeek27's problems?
The world has many, many different religious and "spitual" philosophies and belief systems....and an awful lot of these belief's date back long before Christianity.
So why jump to Christianity looking for your answer? Especially when the original post even links the problems to the Native American culture?
If there is even a possibility that the problem itself is rooted in the Native American culture (because of the reference to the Indian burial ground) then it's just logical to start looking for your answers there instead of running to your local church.
Makes sense, doesn't it?
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Post by smoggey on Sept 11, 2008 8:27:17 GMT -6
But you don't have to run to the church just for help can also get advice.. Altho I dont think I ever know a spirt or a bad demon to hurt two people at once. But he's got the choice of going to a church for help or advice even if it is differnt culture in any case.
Also Ghostgeek if you have been getting cuts ect can you show this to us via pictures ?
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Post by bobbybuka on Sept 11, 2008 10:39:43 GMT -6
I kind of think that the "cuts" are a little "far fetched" too...but I just wanted to jump into the discussion with sort of an "ok, let's just say this is all real..." attitude.
But to be absolutely and completely serious now....I just don't think an average minister or priest in any Christian religion would do anything at all to help "ghostgeek27" with his problem.
I think if ghostgeek actually went into the nearest church and asked to speak with the minister or priest - then told that minister or priest the whole story that he told in the original post in this topic - that minister or priest would think ghostgeek is lying. The minister or priest might tell ghostgeek to pray and ask for god's help or something like that....but I think that would just be to get ghostgeek to stop bothering the minister or priest.
Have any of you ever spoken to a minister or priest (or any member of the "Christian clergy") about their opinions on the "supernatural" or "paranormal phenomena" - ?
I've known a few different "clergymen" well enough to consider them to actually be friends of mine....one is a Lutheran Minister who is the pastor of a congregation...one is an Episcopalian Priest who works as a chaplain with a hospice care provider...and one is an ordained reverend with the Western Orthadox Church who is currently pursuing his Phd, and he is also an "assistant pastor" of a congregation.
I've known other religious clegymen over the years, too, but I've actually had the opportunity to discuss issues of "the paranormal" or "supernatural beliefs" with these people that I just mentioned in recent years - all three of them do not believe in "THE SUPERNATURAL" the way that it's discussed on message boards like these. And all 3 also explained to me that the "Philosophies and Beliefs of Christianity itself" do not allow for the existence of "the supernatural"....all of this should be a much larger discussion, but what I'm saying is - THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN GHOSTS! (they don't even believe in "demons" the way that people on message boards like these describe interactions with supposed demons)
SOOOOOOO......
my only point was....let's say "ghostgeek27" is telling the absolute truth in the first post of this topic. Sending him to a priest or minister would be pretty useless.
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ghosthunter555
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most people are blind to the truth...
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Post by ghosthunter555 on Sept 11, 2008 14:18:27 GMT -6
I kind of think that the "cuts" are a little "far fetched" too...but I just wanted to jump into the discussion with sort of an "ok, let's just say this is all real..." attitude. But to be absolutely and completely serious now....I just don't think an average minister or priest in any Christian religion would do anything at all to help "ghostgeek27" with his problem. I think if ghostgeek actually went into the nearest church and asked to speak with the minister or priest - then told that minister or priest the whole story that he told in the original post in this topic - that minister or priest would think ghostgeek is lying. The minister or priest might tell ghostgeek to pray and ask for god's help or something like that....but I think that would just be to get ghostgeek to stop bothering the minister or priest. Have any of you ever spoken to a minister or priest (or any member of the "Christian clergy") about their opinions on the "supernatural" or "paranormal phenomena" - ? I've known a few different "clergymen" well enough to consider them to actually be friends of mine....one is a Lutheran Minister who is the pastor of a congregation...one is an Episcopalian Priest who works as a chaplain with a hospice care provider...and one is an ordained reverend with the Western Orthadox Church who is currently pursuing his Phd, and he is also an "assistant pastor" of a congregation. I've known other religious clegymen over the years, too, but I've actually had the opportunity to discuss issues of "the paranormal" or "supernatural beliefs" with these people that I just mentioned in recent years - all three of them do not believe in "THE SUPERNATURAL" the way that it's discussed on message boards like these. And all 3 also explained to me that the "Philosophies and Beliefs of Christianity itself" do not allow for the existence of "the supernatural"....all of this should be a much larger discussion, but what I'm saying is - THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN GHOSTS! (they don't even believe in "demons" the way that people on message boards like these describe interactions with supposed demons) SOOOOOOO...... my only point was....let's say "ghostgeek27" is telling the absolute truth in the first post of this topic. Sending him to a priest or minister would be pretty useless. ah so you think so huh? well your correct in that a blessing would do nothing but anger it more. however the fact is the power of god does astounding things. for example should ghostgeek need it an exorcism would expel the evil presence from his body and soul. but the thing is sometimes the exorcism goes bad then it could turn out worse. its a 50-50 thing here. do a church related solution only as a last reserve
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Post by smoggey on Sept 11, 2008 15:27:06 GMT -6
Then agen he has'nt replyed to any of this so it could be a hoax as I asked for pictures lol its very simple for him to get from the net. So agen 50/50 on the whole topic here the same with ghosts spirts or what you like to call them...
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Post by bobbybuka on Sept 12, 2008 7:30:34 GMT -6
ghosthunter555....I just checked your profile and I now know that you are 14 years old.....that really explains a lot of what you are saying.
I certainly would never mock your personal religious beliefs....but I think it's a good idea for you to realize that you believe what you believe simply because you were brought up believing it.
Somebody who was brought up with religious beliefs that differ from yours will believe what they believe simply because they were brought up believing it....so if you were in a "religious debate" with a 14 year old Muslim boy, a 14 year old Jewish girl, a 14 year old Hindu boy, a 14 year old Buddhist boy and a 14 year old girl who had been raised in that polygamist sect compound down in Texas.....
THE SIX OF YOU WOULD HAVE WILDLY DIFFERENT "BELIEFS" AND THINGS THAT YOU THINK ARE ABSOLUTE, UNDISPUTABLE TRUTHS!!!
you'd be saying: "OHHHH, IT'S TRUE - A BLESSING WOULD ANGER THE DEMON!!!"
-and the Buddhist kid would be saying: "BUT THERE ARE NO SUCH THINGS AS DEMONS!!!"
-and the polygamist sect girl would be saying: "THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH STINKY OLD MEN FORCING ME TO BECOME ONE OF THEIR BRIDES - THAT'S WHAT GOD WANTS!!!"
-and the Muslim kid would be saying: "GOD WANTS TO BE CALLED "ALLAH" AND HE THINKS YOU'RE ALL INFIDELS!!!"
-and I'm not sure what the Jewish girl or the Hindu boy would say, but I have a feeling they would just be annoyed with all of you.
But the thing that you would really need to understand, ghosthunter555 - is that none of you would be "right" or "wrong" because there is no absolute truth when you are discussing people's beliefs.
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ghosthunter555
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Post by ghosthunter555 on Sept 14, 2008 9:46:22 GMT -6
just relax alright? it is true since none of the beliefs have the entire truth. nobody on earth know the whole truth. not you, not me, not anybody. therefore it is hard to critisize somebody when you yourself dont know the truth. think about it for a while.
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Post by bobbybuka on Sept 15, 2008 7:29:23 GMT -6
ummm...
I'm pretty relaxed over all, ghosthunter555...you'll never see me calling anybody "a little immature piece of s**t" or any of the other things that I've read in your posts.
-and since you even admit that "nobody on earth know the whole truth"...why do you makes posts on here that come from a point of view where you're saying that you are right and others are wrong?
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