JFK Prep Update

[~Leapin~]

I now know that there was a young lady named Mary who hung herself in the late 70s. How do I know this? Her old room mate emailed me!

She told me that she googled her old school, and was amazed when a whole bunch of stuff came up, including my page, so she felt the need to contact me.

Could this be to good to be true? Maybe, but I did email her back with a few questions. Hopefully she will contact me again, and any new information I receive, I'll be sure to let you know.

[glow=green,2,300]~Leapin~[/glow]

BTW, She did say that even back then, it was a very beautiful, peaceful place, but you could still feel the presence of many spirits around you.

[LadyOfTheLake]

Tracy, she emailed a few of us too.
She and I have emailed back and forth, she did not know my old friends who were students out there, or their siblings as she was only there for a year. But she was familiar with a staff member or two that I knew as well.

She is right. This friend of hers would have NEVER wanted to be part of an urban legend. And it was 1976, not late 70's. For (me) growing up so close, I remember this being a local happening, some of the other happenings a local just does not forget, ever. I think that is why I have always had some type of interest in that place -- my earliest tie to the grounds would have been "transplanted" there in 1920... I guess I have always been in love with the place and there during a lot of my lifetime.

[idontno32512]

i heard they are making repairs on the buildings on uer.ca so its would be hard to get in...

[phenomenonhunter]

Okay, Okay.... let me try and help you here with this whole St. Nazianz, JFK Prep center thing.
In November of 2005, me and a bunch of my friends became obsessed with it and went there numerous times, the last time we went, we got busted. Now when you go, the very closest building, before the pond starts has a huge door in the back that had plywood covering it. someone we knew came one day and kicked it down so when we went we went inside. now this building can be very confusing cause there are lots of room, small and big and lots of stairs going down. there are some rooms that look like garagres, underground, you know the doors with small windows going horizontally across, that kind. and i am not kidding, a red 6 fingered handprint on the wall. now yes, this could be a oprank, and no i'm not saying its blood, but this was way into the building. not like when you first go in, the first room has spray paint which isn't surprising because i'm sure people have gone their before, but this handprint was no spray paint.
after leaving this building there is a huge semi-church looking building behind it - next to the school. when walking next to this tall almost 3 story building and inbetween another building (next to it, maybe 2 stories) huge sensor lights come on, about 8, four on each side. behind this (when we went) there was old couches, chairs and other delabidated furniture sitting a circle. it was a little tense to say the least.
then there is a small path to the graveyard and a small building (where they do dead body things - morgeu is that what you call it?) and some very old tombstones.
after leaving this area (small path gets you there), you come to grand daddy of the buildings the main one. now in the back there was a large dumpster and (from the front the door would be to your left) on the right side there was a door with a large piece of wood and lock nailed into it. the door was open about a foot and it was pitch black inside. on the door was it was written "No entry Guard dogs", so we decided against entering. we went back around front where on the doors is a giant piece of wood that has the 10 commandments on it. i went to take a pee and this is where i heard someone say "don't make me come over there" and our gang got busted for trespassing.
now the cops were irate that we were hear and when one of my friends asked if they ever saw anything they screamed at us, "no! there is no such thing as ghosts! this place ain't haunted, you kids just trying to waste our time with your d**n stories!" and walked off. and yes when we got busted there was plenty of cops, and yes, guard dogs. we later found out that going inside that first building set off an alarm - thats why so many cops were there and who knows for how long.
but i must say that trip wasnt really spooky but our previous trips were. we had a camera (vidoe camera) with us once and we saw what looked like a nun walking across the building in the back (the 2 story one across from the 3 story one) and as soon as i say "look someone's on that ledge" a spotlight turns on from a huge area of trees inbetween first building and back buildings so we bolted. but while driving past to see the light, we couldn't see any pole (and the light was far too high to be a person standing) and it seemed to turn and follow us as we drove.
also, in that first building - with our camera - you can see a mask or a face in one of the windows, but it's not there when we go past the same building and windows minutes later. i didnt notice this until we watched it at my house that night. now, sure there could've been someone in a tree holding the light (the night we got busted the light was sitting where it first turned on with a really long extension cord connected to it) but that would be even creepier. also, that "nun" could have been a cop, but tell me, at 2 in the morning, who's walking on abandoned buildings roofs? and the face? that's most bizarre.
if you dont believe me, fine, but i know what we saw, as does everyone else. if you have any questions, feel free to email me at [e-mail]
-also for those who have gone, doesn't the ride there seem to take forever and the ride back seem so short? and for those who havent gone, its across from the water tower, and yes, that light by the pond is on every night.

[LadyOfTheLake]

I guess that your posting makes me laugh a little, PhenomonenHunter.
I was part of an ongoing investigation team there, and I was familiar with the grounds all my life, from being a baby out there (for mass on a weekend) thru my adult years. I grew up near by as well and have had family history out there since the earlier 1920's.

I also happen to know the owner, a person I met since the last selling of this property, a few years ago.

If you saw the trespassing signs, why did you choose to not abide? Sure, there is the thrill of it, but someone lives out there for most of it. I hope you learned to read a no trespassing sign since, and learn to abide by it. The security lights are out there for a reason. So are the constant sherriff's department visits, and neighbors. Many people keep an eye on the place out of concern.

The cemetery has nothing to do with the buildings. It's been discussed before.
And there is not a small path to the grave yard. It's an actual driveway. You simply drive up the drive way and pay respect to the deceased priests who are buried there. Should I mention that I go there often, I know of a dozen priests or more that are buried there and were friends of ours?

Then you mention (copied from your posting above) old couches, chairs and other delabidated furniture sitting a circle. It's older furniture that surrounds a campfire, instead of nice brand new lawn chairs or a patio set. Why would one put that there, when trespassers and vandals destroy everything when they are not welcomed there?

This, copied from your posting word for word: then there is a small path to the graveyard and a small building (where they do dead body things - morgeu is that what you call it?) and some very old tombstones. It's the mausoleum of Father Oschwald, it's nothing creepy. He was the founder of the grounds, of the center. Important people usually have mausoleums, when they are of his importance. And also, old tombstones? Some of those were priests and religious order that were there in the later 1800's -- they are just religious order who were buried there. The small building is a Salvatorian chapel which is used by the order. No, it's not a morgue, where they do dead body things (as you must have thought). I actually know of a few carpenters who have worked out there dilligently for quite a while...

I have not seen sisters or nuns out there, other than in the cemetery, for many years. The last time I saw a sister out there was when it was an active school, in a building.

The light by the pond is on every night. Had it not been, I think people would start to worry and the bulb would be changed.

Lastly, I suppose you were there with a vehicle that was parked too closely to a building, that drove away faster than fast? I suppose someone left behind a t-shirt that was wet and sweaty? Believe me, much of it is ghostlore and rumors. Back in it's day it was the best of the best, a wonderful community. A good employer to many.
And now it's a gracefully aged building with breakdown and damage due to the uninvited people who have not learned to respect other people's property.

Nuff said and thought and typed.

Edit: I will admit to a series of things that I had noticed there, some of this was pre-1980's, some was in the mid 1990's, and then some in the last few years. I had friends who lived in the old dorms out there in the late 1970's who "just did not talk about things at times" or go down a certain staircase that was nearest to their dorm room if that means anything...

[LadyOfTheLake]

Any word on the Salvatorian grounds these days?

I have heard of two very different things...
and am curious. Even people that live close have not heard the same things...

[ghostbuster13]

phemomenonhunter i would love to see the video tape with the face and the "nun" also when u went past the hand you should off taken like a knife of somthing of that nature and rubbed it againtst the hand print then you could bring it to a school science teacher and they could have told you what it was or u could have braught it to a paint store too. but email me if you can get that tape [e-mail]