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Post by ashley! on Sept 12, 2009 20:07:37 GMT -6
haha. nice. now that i think about it i agree with you greg. there is a movie about vlad. its called the dark prince. i dont noe if it is completely true but i do noe that some of it is true.
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Post by greg on Sept 13, 2009 3:51:21 GMT -6
I just remembered another title: "Vampires Among Us". It's the stories of a number of people in modern times who think they've vampires or have had experiences with them.
Then there's another title that I just remembered has been on my shelf for years but I haven't even looked at yet: "The Vampire Book: The Encyclopedia of the Undead", by Melton. It has entries on all sorts of stuff from legend and fiction.
Turning to a random page, I just found the entry for the Vampirism Research Institute. "In 1992, inspired by Rosemary Guiley's book Vampires Among Us, and with the cooperation of the Count Dracula Fan Club and the Vampire Information Exchange, McMahon conducted a survey of vampire fans..." And it cites the monograph "Dysfunctional Vampire: A Theory from Personal History", and the compilation "Best of the Journal of Modern Vampirism". PO Box 21067, Seattle, WA 98111-3067, if it's still around.
Then there's the Vampire Guild founded by Phill White and based in Dorset, England. Address given is The Vampire Guild, 82, Rip Croft, Portland, Dorset DT5 2EE, United Kingdom. Overseas correspondents should include an International Reply Coupon. They publish a quarterly, Crimson.
The Vampire Information Exchange, founded by Eric Held and Dorothy Nixon in 1978. Nixon had been inspired by Donald Glut's book True Vampires of History.
Vampire Junction, a fanzine started in 1991.
The Vampire Legion in Australia, with a newsletter and bimonthly magazine.
The Vampire Research Center, founded in 1972 by Stephen Kaplan.
The Vampire Research Society, founded in 1970 by Sean Manchester.
Vampire Studies, founded in 1977 by Martin V. Riccardo, with a now-folded publication, The Journal of Vampirism. It continues as a correspondence network and information clearinghouse.
That's enough now. Those are all from The Vampire Book, copyright 1994, so I don't know how much of that stuff is still going on (and I haven't fired up Google yet). But it looks like there's more stuff going on than I'd imagined.
Maybe the original poster has all of this stuff and has already done the background research, but maybe there's something useful. If those (now possibly defunct) publications could be tracked down, and some of those people contacted, there must be a lot of material to pick through.
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Post by ashley! on Sept 14, 2009 15:16:25 GMT -6
hey thanks. i might use those myself. appreciate the info. this is what the website is all about.
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Post by Carrie on Sept 15, 2009 18:03:28 GMT -6
Ow and Carrie, in my opinion vampires don't just suck the blood, I'd rather expect them to kill the victim afterwards. Why? The victim could afterwards could aware other people of the exstence of a vampire in the neighbourhood, or even make a portret of him/she and that would put in danger a vampires existence. So why not simpler kill the victim drink his blood, and that person simply goes disapearing. I told you I don't see the vampires like some stupid creatures that can make I don't know what magic and bulls**t. I rather see it like a disease. And all are some kind of sideefects: light skin(thats why sun can hurt them badly), thirst of blood, long tooths, etc. As I said watch the movie : The Hamiltons, my conception about them is something like in that movie. Other questions? well lets just say that someone is bitten by a vampire and the vampire doesnt kill them and they go tell someone. do you really think someone is going to believe them?? nowadays they will just blow them off because most people dont believe in those kind of things. or if they keep on insisting and they show them the marks they will turn them into a psycho ward. you know what im saying. i totally agree with ashley's question/accusation? lol its like in the movie the little vampire. nobody believed the guy who had been bitten by the vampires! also another question... how do you think vampires came to exist? like seriously? isn't it kinda weird how they just one day came to be? did one day they become mutated and had a serious craving for blood? and there teeth came out LOOONG and then the villagers somehow found out and they would try to kill them? have you ever read the book vampire world vol. 1? and vol. 2...and vol. 3? they are really good...anyways in the first book the author tells this really good story on how vampires came to be, although it could be true they talk about 2 diff vampires. i forgot most of it cause i read the series a long time ago but its a really good book. u should read it! although it is stories about different people. its not a documentary.
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Post by Carrie on Sept 15, 2009 19:28:44 GMT -6
lol your friends are gonna laugh at me? *gasp - looking around the corner at your friends laughing * OMG What am i gonna do? should i run??? People are laughing what am i going to do? should i tell your teacher? Next you'll meet me after school on the playground....OMG hahahahaha.... How high school, youngster. man, OMG now that's too funny!!!! ;D thanks for the entertainment....sweetie...hahaha;D you're friends are laughing at me oooooooh im so scared*snickering* that's a good one.... alright that was fun im gonna leave you alone now...good luck, sweetie! ;D k, one more time. only TONY is allowed 2 call me youngster, just like only he is allowed to call me the good sister; sister mary; or madonna. only my 'rents and dilloon are allowed to call me sweetie, so just lay off that. 3rd, high school, yes, but hey, i don't care. your high school years were probly ur good years. now ur just another middle class nobody, the kind of person i laugh at. thanks for shutting up! woow! are you stupid or something? she didn't shut up! she just hasn't been on this forum/website! duh! plus! nobody gives a rats ass what they are or are not aloud to call u.
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Post by Carrie on Sept 15, 2009 19:43:20 GMT -6
wow greg! u kno alot! lol. on the one before this recent post i totally agree with you on the last sentence. lol i was seeing a picture of like how people would have wars! lol like in the movie brave heart. when the there is a nutsload of people on one side and then slightly less of a nutsload of people on the other side and they us arrows and swords and HUGE cannons instead of guns! wow i think the wars know has dwindled into kinda crappy wars know! like back then the wars seemed cooler and know its just lik uhhh oh he was shot? wow no action there!
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Post by greg on Sept 17, 2009 14:20:02 GMT -6
I wouldn't say there's no action in a modern war! But it's become less about brute force and more about brains. If they can see you, they can kill you, as the infantry training manual says. An example is tracking patrols moving inside of their own lines to find infiltrating units. If they find a trail they'll follow it, but also call it in so that other units can try to get ahead of the infiltrators and ambush them. And the infiltrators know that. There's a number of ways to lose trackers, and if they think they're being followed they might hook around and set an ambush on their own trail. But the trackers don't have to just stumble into it-- if they're suspicious they'll scout it out.
I can't even imagine how stressful it is to be out there knowing that any little goof or lapse in judgment could get yourself and so many of your own guys killed. I've never served, but reading through an FM 7-8 sure clears away the notion of the dumb trigger puller. There's a reason the Army doesn't take dummies these days.
When I said wars were less civilized, I mean, for instance, that we don't deliberately kill civilians. Sure, it still happens. They always suffer. But it's a regrettable accident, not just a good start. In the feudal days it was just a matter of course to kill your enemy's peasants-- they were an economic resource and no more thought was given to them than of livestock (despite the continued protestations of the Church). I mean that these days prisoners of war are actually protected, and not sold into slavery, or beheaded and their heads shot out of cannons back to the enemy positions. We don't burn the town and salt the fields. A captured commander isn't skinned alive, and then the skin stuffed with straw and paraded through Washington.
It's just unbelievable what people used to do to each other. Things that nobody these days would tolerate, whether done by friend or foe.
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Post by greg on Sept 20, 2009 13:55:17 GMT -6
"Vampires, Werewolves, & Demons: Twentieth century reports in the psychiatric literature", by Richard Noll (Brunner/Mazel, Inc., New York, 1992).
I haven't read it, and I'll have to return it to the library before I can (I have a stack). But on the back is an excerpt from a review:
"... The case histories are extreme, being studies of 'vampires' hospitalized due to violence or self-mutilization. This tends to give a rather one-sided picture [as there are] perfectly well-adjusted 'vampires' living useful lives within the community. Accepting this limitation as unavoidable, Vampires, Werewolves, & Demons is a valuable and essential study." -- "For The Blood Is The Life": The Vampyre Society Journal
That excerpt is interesting on a number of levels.
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Post by ashley! on Sept 24, 2009 17:37:02 GMT -6
"Vampires, Werewolves, & Demons: Twentieth century reports in the psychiatric literature", by Richard Noll (Brunner/Mazel, Inc., New York, 1992). I haven't read it, and I'll have to return it to the library before I can (I have a stack). But on the back is an excerpt from a review: "... The case histories are extreme, being studies of 'vampires' hospitalized due to violence or self-mutilization. This tends to give a rather one-sided picture [as there are] perfectly well-adjusted 'vampires' living useful lives within the community. Accepting this limitation as unavoidable, Vampires, Werewolves, & Demons is a valuable and essential study." -- "For The Blood Is The Life": The Vampyre Society Journal That excerpt is interesting on a number of levels. ok wat i just got out of that and tell me if im wrong but did it say something along the lines of vampires, werewolves, and demons living among us as upstanding citizens?? but the thing im thinking is what if they are actually living among us but we dont noe they are because we think they are mortal??
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Post by greg on Sept 25, 2009 13:55:02 GMT -6
Take another look at the part of the title that says "reports in the psychiatric literature".
I haven't read that book, but I've read a few on lycanthropy. And there have been people that are convinced that they are, e.g., a wolf, with fur, fangs, and all the rest. They can look in a mirror and see it. Nobody else can. From the introduction, I think the book also includes people who think they're under attack by demons or vampires. If I had any talent as a writer, it would be very tempting to weave these documented cases into a story and see if I can freak out anyone who tries to follow up on it.
The notion, advanced in the excerpt, that there are people like that who don't land in the loony bin is, I think, rather interesting.
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Post by aldrea18 on Oct 2, 2009 6:59:42 GMT -6
ya aldrea nobody else is gunna comment on this thread anymore because they are reading all the comments and they well try to avoid getting into the fight. Hollyberries-omg!! that is just too funny!! i couldn't help but laugh! bahahahahhaha "dont turn around!" "just run and laugh" lol well, incase u have failed to notice, other ppl have commented, oh, and jsuk, u r really immature, because u act like u r all knowing and ur not. thanks, but plz go away!
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Post by ashley! on Oct 4, 2009 11:46:44 GMT -6
ohhhh. i get it now. whoa missed that by a mile. but still in what i was saying if you really think about it like really think about it. there could be actual vampires and werewolves living among us and we wouldnt even noe it because they have had years and years at perfecting the art of staying hidden and unknown to the rest of the world. and on what you were saying about people that actually believe they are vampires and werewolves and etc. i watched a documentary about that. it was about this "coven" that thought they were actual vampires and they believed they had to drink blood to survive. i cant remember all about it. i watched it along time ago. ill look it up when i get a chance and repost about it.
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Post by aldrea18 on Dec 17, 2009 8:25:09 GMT -6
THANK YOU! finally some one gets my question! thank you ashley! that helped!
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