cerberus
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Post by cerberus on Nov 20, 2009 15:23:01 GMT -6
So a friend of mine has told me that he has sighted a dark figure moving throughout his house. he only catches brief glimpses of it but it normally appears grey and not wearing any clothing, or very little clothing. He is currently trying to find a time when i could make the trip out to his house to investigate it. Could this possibly be a shadow person and how should it be dealt with properly? Are these the same things as regular spirits or are they different (because on one website i heard that they are possibly demonic in nature)? any comments would be appreciated. Thanks!
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Post by ashley! on Nov 20, 2009 19:36:08 GMT -6
first u need to find out what kind of shadow person it is. u need to find out which one it is. when u get to his house then try to see if it will cooperate with u and talk to u. write back and tell us what happened when u walked in the house. where does he live???
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cerberus
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Post by cerberus on Nov 20, 2009 23:54:29 GMT -6
its possible it could be Native American, he says there were alot in his area that were killed back when the area was being settled. he only lives a couple miles west of me, but i don't have the address. I've been keeping tabs with him for the past couple monthes, his house and barn area have a lot of activity. He always reports weird vibes by the barn at night. He also said that he witnessed another spirit which wasn't a shadow person. so my guess is he's got multiple ones in his house.
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Post by ashley! on Nov 21, 2009 9:32:14 GMT -6
thats not uncommon. when u do get the address, and u do get over there try to get some evp's as well.
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cerberus
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Post by cerberus on Nov 21, 2009 11:07:21 GMT -6
sounds like a plan, i'll have to see about picking up a cheap tape recorder and some tapes for it. don't know if they stil sell those, but i'll check the next time i go out shopping.
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Post by Carrie on Nov 21, 2009 17:49:01 GMT -6
hmmm...mayb before they built his house and barn there was were they had settled down. or maybe they were buried on that dudes land and all they want is peace. or maybe the house/barn was built over there "cemetary" who knows but thats what im sorta geussing.
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Post by BHPI Mark on Dec 3, 2009 10:08:59 GMT -6
Cerberus,
I would suggest a couple things first before you start your investigation. Do you know if this is on reservation land? If so, I would contact an elder and respectfully ask about this particular area where your friends home is built. Most history on a reservation is handed down orally, so you have to go to the source.
I would also go to the county court house and go to where they keep their deeds. Go in and search anything you can on the residence. You would be surprised how much information you can find on past owners of the property. Once you do this you can also Google search names and the address. There are other websites, but most are pay sites and that can get a little pricey. Even go to the local newspaper to see what they have in their archives about this particular home or area you friend says a lot of people were killed.
As far as evidence collection, I would definitely invest in a digital recorder. A tape recorder with tapes can become more expensive in the long run because you have to buy tapes. Remember if you use a tape recorder, you cannot reuse the tapes after you have used them because of contamination. Obviously, you have a computer so a digital audio recorder would be your best investment. You can download Audacity (it’s FREE!) to upload any recordings and you can do quite a bit with this program. It is one I use for my EVPs and it has never let me down.
I don’t know if you belong to a group or not. So, I would suggest that you do not investigate this location by yourself. It could be dangerous i.e., falling, getting hurt, etc, etc. Also you would need someone with you to validate any evidence that you collect. Maybe your friend can be your investigative buddy!
If you have a digital camera, I would take shots of the location prior to starting your investigation. This way you have baseline photos of the location. After the investigation take photos of the same locations standing in the same spot and compare those photos during your evidence review. If you have a EMF meter a good sweep of the location prior to investigating gives you a good baseline for later on.
This is just basic information, but it will get you started in the right direction. Hope it helps.
Mark Shadley, Investigator/Researcher Black Hills Paranormal Investigations
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ghostseer169
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Post by ghostseer169 on Dec 9, 2009 18:30:54 GMT -6
Since you mentioned its possible it could be native american, I would guess if you want to get rid of it burn sage throughout the house and the barn, and anywhere else on the property you feel the presence. This is an old native american ritual to get rid of spirits.
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Post by Mystery on Jun 17, 2010 10:49:33 GMT -6
Shadow people are often demonic in nature, rather than actual people. I recommend trying to collect evidence of your own of the shadows, using tape recorders, and contacting a paranormal group. Good luck
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Post by BHPI Mark on Jun 18, 2010 9:32:01 GMT -6
Mystery,
I am curious as to your evidence that supports your statement, "Shadow people are often demonic in nature, rather than actual people."
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Post by Mystery on Jun 18, 2010 10:20:27 GMT -6
I think it's hard to have concrete evidence about the paranormal, but that is what I've come to find is a lot of peoples' theories in my research of the paranormal. If you're interested, here are some sites that talk about shadow people: www.unknown-creatures.com/shadow-people.html"There can be no doubt that Shadow People are spiritual creatures, and they seem to be highly negative or demonic in nature. The first thing most notable of being demonic in nature, is that they are most often seen by a distored means, such as out of the corners of the eyes or behind, the same is often reported in cases of demonic activity. Another thing to note is their dark color or form. People that encounter them note they have the abilty to pass through solid items, such as walls, etc. And they often give off a essence of pure evil when encountered." Also: paranormal.about.com/od/trueghoststories/a/shadow-people.htm"The dark countenance and malevolent feelings that are often reported in association with these creatures has led some researchers to speculate that they may be demonic in nature. If they are demons, we have to wonder what their purpose or intent is in letting themselves be seen in this manner. Is it merely to frighten?"
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Post by BHPI Mark on Jun 22, 2010 19:12:08 GMT -6
Mystery,
I would agree that obtaining concrete evidence about the paranormal is difficult but not impossible as long as you follow strict guidelines in setting up your equipment and properly reviewing that evidence. I could convincingly theorize that out of 100 reported hauntings maybe one or two might have confirmed paranormal activity. Unfortunately, I have heard all of the theories out there by people in the paranormal field, but most lack supporting evidence. Not to be difficult, but I can pick up the mantra that shadow people are often demonic in nature just by the very fact that their shadows are very dark, and that darkness is evil therefore demonic. However, in this case, two plus two does not equal four.
I am not trying to be difficult, but no where in these two links did the author provide any evidence to back their claim. It was purely their opinion or thoughts on the subject, whether it be from personal experiences or through interviews. Personal experiences are powerful for those that experience something, and granted, it is very hard to explain to them that what they experienced was a natural occurrence...if that is indeed the case and can be proved.
I have experienced a shadow person a couple times, one that actually materialized, if you will, in front of me and rushed past me. I never felt threatened or felt the fires of hell. It was what it was, a dark shadow that rushed past me. It was not captured on video and there was no audio. In fact the only thing you hear is me stating, "What the hell was that?" Cool experience? You bet, but not one that I could explain or recreate, and it was never used in our final analysis of the location. The point I guess I am trying to make is the fact that even though there are many who have experienced shadow people, no one has the knowledge or expertise to say what they are, or if they are malevolent.
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Post by midnightdreamer34 on Jul 5, 2010 17:26:46 GMT -6
hi, i have shadow people in our house, i see them out of the corner of my eyes,but, only in the kitchen area, and basment, that is very strange, but our cats see things all the time, my husband and i heard what sounded like old ladies talking, and glass clicking together coming from the kitchen one early morning, i kindly told them to quit and havnt heard since, but shadow people are kind of scary i always feel like someone looking at me
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cerberus
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Post by cerberus on Jul 6, 2010 6:34:22 GMT -6
thank you all for your responses and thoughts. I know its been a while since I replied, to be truthfull I forgot that I had this thread yet.
I honestly don't think there's anything evil or demonic about them really. All I see it as is another way in which a spirit can manifest. To assume that it's evil or malevolent is just a hasty conclusion. Paranormal sciences and research are still kind of a new frontier. Although people have been practing this for a long time, still, not everything is known yet. I'd honestly rather keep an open mind about the possibilities and draw my own conclusions.
anyways, thank you all for your input on the matter.
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Post by kim1988 on Oct 6, 2010 18:35:13 GMT -6
just a copie, what i can find good explanetion
They are among the most terrifying paranormal experiences that a person can have, "Shadow People" or loosely translated 'shadow people'. Their identity and origin are a mystery and if you ever see one, you will never forget. Shadow People are dark, silhouetted figures that appear unexpectedly and that fear and anxiety unbosom for those who witness it. Usually they appear in the bedrooms of 'possessed' houses.
In all ages, people have experiences with these strange shadows. There are those who frequently "visit" and get in some cases even the whole family visited by foreign entities. Who or what are these disquieting apparitions? Ghosts? Demons? People from another dimension? And why do it at night people fright hunting?
In a typical encounter a person awakens during the night to - what looks like - the silhouette of a tall man with a cape and / or hat to see emerge. The shadow man is next to the bed, in the doorway or in a corner of the bedroom. The entity looks intense on the sleeping person, although there are no eyes or facial contours. The entity is solidly built, blacker than black, and can perceive light and the blocking of existing objects. There is no communication, only observations of heavy discomfort, fear, anxiety, and malice. If the witness starts screaming perception disappears in a flash: it dissolves in space, leave the room through the wall or ceiling or disappears in a closet or under the bed.
Rosemary Ellen Guiley has studied the phenomenon for several years and so has collected hundreds of personal encounters. While she was looking for links with folklore, paranormal apparitions, visions, the Old Hag Syndrome (sleep paralysis), psychological and sleep disorders.
Rosemary Ellen Guiley is one of the foremost authorities in the field of the paranormal. Psychic experiences as a child led her to a life's mission: research and study of paranormal mysteries. Since 1983 she works full-time on her life's work and wrote 31 nonfiction books and hundreds of articles on a wide range of paranormal subjects and has personally experienced many paranormal phenomena may. She worked on several documentaries and radio and TV programs. She is a member of the League of Paranormal Gentlemen for Spooked Productions, TAPS Para Magazine and columnist for "consulting editor for FATE Magazine. She also has her own website: Visionary Living.
Guiley believe that shadow people paranormal encounter are: the visit by beings from another dimension who are able to penetrate our physical reality. The interest of these entities is given to the observation of - and possibly control - us. Who exactly are these shadow people is unclear, but a link to extraterrestrials should not be excluded: it would take us long to observe, monitor and adjust. Perhaps these entities, just like anxiety and fear to enforce their revelations to avoid the idea that we would come to penetrate into their dimension.
Why do they wear capes and hats? The hats are usually of an older style, or may look like helmets, which could mean that the shadow people or their true silhouette, or the true nature and purpose of their 'visit' to hide.
For those who live through such an appearance the first half does not show to be. Just the post describing this experience calls back the same fear and anxiety. Many have after the first encounter with a shadow a man for years disturbed sleep.
A scientific explanation for the phenomenon would be hypnagogie: a physiological condition between sleeping and waking. In that state, a person aware of his surroundings and a feeling of fear and excitement experienced, possibly triggered by the subconscious.
This nocturnal appearances are documented worldwide. It even looks as though they have a very long time to be part of our world. The very purpose of their mission (s) is still unknown. powered by
I like what she said.
greets kim
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