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Post by Einstein2 on Feb 8, 2008 1:18:24 GMT -6
Does anyone know?
I read that in the 1940's or so, the goverment put tiny trackers in some people deliberately and military personal.
Note : This has nothing to do with nasty bad or offenders of the wosrt kind!
It was thought that babies where targeted without the parents knowledge...and where given shots that contained the small tracking devices.So anyone like born after 1940's could have a tracker in them Right?
I was wondering if maybe they are basically the same things like what Vets would put into pets?
Now assuming they where, can they be detected with the same devices Vets use for checking lost pets? Then a person could buy one of those trackers finders and see if they have a tracker in them?
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This would mean they could obviusly do things to either harrass you mind wise ot try to undo your personalty or fix the way you think....You know: stuff like that,any time they want!
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I was thinking maybe that is why some people claim they feel they are being watched/mind waves ect...Like I know someone who claims they feel they know what you are thinking, when you turn the radio on and your song comes on at the same time..The big difference though ..... it happens all the time!
I wonder if it is a techqnic to make you go crazy...
You sing a song and go take a drive and It comes on as soon as you start the car...Ever have that happen? It really is spooky!Though kind of funny....I would say: What a bunch of losers.... They can't face you face to face.I just say it must be because they feel you are VERY intelligent. That made that person smile!
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Post by malfated on Feb 8, 2008 9:17:35 GMT -6
Conspiracy theory. If they had been around for that long, someone would have caught on by now, simple as that. I wouldn't put it past the government because they are always trying to find ways to monitor what we are doing (big brother is always watching). Sounds like a good plot for a movie, but I seriously doubt it.
Btw, stop giving them ideas!
Haha, just kidding.
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Post by bigcory on Feb 8, 2008 12:40:12 GMT -6
Sorry to say, technology back in the 40's couldn't make a device small enough to be injected. Think about it, up until the 60-70's, the computer on your desk now would have taken up an entire room. Not until the late 70's did the ability exist to make any kind of electronics small enough to do something like this.
Einstein2, you come up with some of the wackiest stuff. This theory is right up there with the wearing aluminum foil on your head to keep the alien mind control rays for getting ya.
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Post by Einstein2 on Feb 8, 2008 14:07:21 GMT -6
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Post by bigcory on Feb 8, 2008 17:05:38 GMT -6
Wow, real reliable information there.  I wouldn't call myself a "debunker", I just think logicly about information, and don't research my information from sources that are nothing more than a melting pot of conspiracy nuts. Try using a source that is unbiased, and has facts that can be proven. |
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Post by Einstein2 on Feb 8, 2008 22:55:55 GMT -6
1st off: This here is real actual historical information..Not from a web site of conspiracy or paranormal or UFO hypothesis information. I don't have to argue my point! but of course you have your beliefs sir, so be it! 2nd off: I was asked a question about being able to detect a microchip or what-ever they used back then....By what I have read it was pretty close to what they do now. Enough said! I feel very sorry for those people who have gone through such a sad tragety... And now we are all the next experiments and tracked victims. www.aches-mc.org/ |
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Post by malfated on Feb 9, 2008 11:09:44 GMT -6
Once again, as bigcory said, UNbiased sources. People who are CREDIBLE.
Honestly... what was said about not having the technology, I don't know why that didn't occur to me, but I don't know if anything like that would have been possible until the last decade or so.
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Post by bigcory on Feb 9, 2008 15:24:00 GMT -6
Now, also think of this. To transmit any type of signal to be used for tracking and "mind control", this "device" would need a power source correct? How long do you think a battery, small enough for something injectable, would last?  ? Even with intermittent use, my MP3 player's AAA only last me about a week. Yet again, find me something in a credible journal. Not a support group for people who claim to have been "experimented on", or again, "conspiracy nuts", that has anything remotely related to this fantastic idea. No offense, but just because you read it somewhere doesn't make it true. Just like your post about the Google map of Greenland. With logical thinking and some looking around, you will find that not everything is a big conspiracy. I say, prove to me that this happened, because logic and reasoning tells me this story is the work of science fiction and paranoia. |
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Post by Einstein2 on Feb 9, 2008 19:21:19 GMT -6
www.raven1.net/kkarticl.htmwww.raven1.net/commsolo.htmQuote: If it wasn't for us intelligent people, who know the truth, who look for truth, no matter what others say or think...We as humans would not be as advanced as we are now." "Nor rain or snow, nor wind or fire or debunker, will stop me from knowing the truth!"
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Post by bigcory on Feb 9, 2008 19:47:56 GMT -6
I guess Malfated and I haven't quite made in clear in what we've said in the past.
PLEASE GIVE INFORMATION FROM A[glow=red,2,300] CREDIBLE SOURCE. [/glow]Do you realize everything you keep posting and saying is "historical fact" or what not, has been from a fringe/conspiracy group. How about something from a reputable organization? Why must you try passing off various wacko's web pages as fact filled research?
Please, I try to have an open mind about things that may or may not exist. If you want me(and I'm sure others) to believe, I want facts, not speculation, not "I do things without knowing why Bubba, must be the gub'ment and their mind control laser thing-a-ma-jigs again"................
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Post by Einstein2 on Feb 9, 2008 20:02:37 GMT -6
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Post by bigcory on Feb 9, 2008 23:18:19 GMT -6
I never made any claim, therefore, it's not my responsibility to prove anything. But since I'm in a good mood, first, I give you the history of Integrated Circuitry nobelprize.org/educational_games/physics/integrated_circuit/history/index.html giving the years of the invention of modern electronic circuitry beginning with the vacuum tube moving to modern chips. Think of the size components we're talking about here. Definitely not injectable into the human body without knowledge. To give another example of the size issues caused by the technology of the age, this is what hearing aids looked like in the 40's beckerexhibits.wustl.edu/did/20thcent/part2.htmI'm sorry to say, with the technology of the 1940's it is virtually impossible, due to the size of components needed, to inject any type of tracking device into a human subject. |
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Post by malfated on Feb 10, 2008 10:28:08 GMT -6
Some people who believe in the paranormal and things such as that can't come to terms with the fact that with the unbelievable comes the completely made up.
Clearly our friend einstein2 would fall under that category.
Don't believe everything you read.
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Post by Einstein2 on Feb 11, 2008 12:40:14 GMT -6
You guys obviously don't want the truth. The information is in the dictionary and many well known books written by many well known authors. One other thing, the goverment won't tell people outright that they have been doing experiments on people from years back and on who or when... and the other thing is..It takes years to get it right so then we know it's been around longer then whats even written in the books. People like you saying it never happened or couldn't is the same thing..But your way won't work because,your telling me it's all bull ..Won't work! The military has been doing brain washing on captured enemies and that has been being done for ages, you truly don't believe that they never targeted us in untold ways? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MKULTRAen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_implantwww.newdawnmagazine.com/Articles/Mind%20Control%20Experiments%20on%20Children.htmlNote: it says in one line:Is there a precedent for this kind of sadistic treatment by CIA and military personnel? Indeed there is. Here is a quote from the introduction to my book, U.S. Government Mind-Control Experiments On Children. It contains information from reliable published sources; such as The Search for the Manchurian Candidate, by John Marks2, Acid Dreams, by Martin Lee3 and The Mind Manipulators, by Alan Scheflin4. In part, these authors derived their information on the CIA and MK-ULTRA from the ten boxes of information released suddenly in 1975 by the agency in response to Freedom of Information Act requests: Ok! Change historical information and see what people will say! ;)about it! I know one thing, I am an informed citizen on the issue! |
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Post by malfated on Feb 11, 2008 22:09:52 GMT -6
Ok, wikipedia is NOT a reliable source. For that matter, anything ending in .com isn't either.
I'm not saying it's not possible. I wouldn't put it past them, but I AM saying that it sure as hell was NOT possible in the 40's.
I think the goverment does a lot of things that are, to say the least, questionable. The federal government just gave half a million dollars to the Green Bay police department to install cameras at stop lights in Green Bay. They are watching us. Closely. But I, being an "informed citizen", as you so eloquently put it, know a load of crap when I see it.
You have yet to give me a source that is in the least bit credible. Sorry.
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? Even with intermittent use, my MP3 player's AAA only last me about a week.