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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Nov 15, 2004 22:38:59 GMT -6
*waves* at a fellow Manitowoc county resident!
I have lived in this county all my life, and now I will wonder where this area is?
Never heard of it, but am forever curious. Will have to ask a fellow haunted fan as well... maybe she knows...
My latest thing to watch in The Evergreen Hotel, not to mention St. Mary's Cemetary, the one from the 1800's in Rapids area... I am just thrilled and enchanted by it all. Still, the way a few things have happened, I am drawn back over and over again... just to observe and wonder...
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Nov 23, 2004 12:03:00 GMT -6
*waves* Have fun, Emmy! And I can't want to hear about what you observed at this place. I am about 1 1/2 hours away or so, still cannot figure out where this place is, yet they advertise a lot, about some of the bigger names there. I forget who was there a few weeks ago, but I wanted to go in the worst way... yet it is hard to get off of work Monday thru Friday (the days I work) due to a stupid co-worker with issues. *rolls eyes*
Happy Thanksgiving!
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Nov 20, 2004 11:49:38 GMT -6
I am guessing this is the same place I hear advertised on the radio station, about some big names there, a concert, then.
There was one, lately, I forget who, but I wanted to go. Could not, due to it being a Mon - Fri night, and I work during the week, and it is rare I can get an evening off lately due to commotion at work.
Yet then, I wonder, had a person saw Dahmer walking the street in downtown Milwaukee, I wonder if a person would have walked past him, wondering if he was a "creature" or something, that he was not normal? From pics I had seen of him, I think he would have stood out. Did I mention my brother met him years ago, due to wanting to work overtime, and having to transport him from Milwaukee back to Portage? *chews nails* just gives me the creeps thinking about it... seeing that monster of society.
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Nov 16, 2004 11:25:50 GMT -6
Is this the same Rave where concerts are held on occasion?
No clue... I hear about shows there, on WAPL, and now reading this, I wonder, yet know nothing at all...
And for only being a little more than an hour away, I have no clue to even where the place is. What am I missing out on?
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Oct 30, 2004 20:27:14 GMT -6
I have never heard of the hotel recreating it's self... and now I will want to get in the car and drive there tonight and tomorrow night, just in case... I live about a 30 minutes drive! Still have spent time there, gazing and staring... I even remember the place before the fire.
To see the place in the fog would have been awesome, still -- the fog we had in Manitowoc County last night was not safe to drive in.
I had a weird experience there, in August. I found a trail that was not marked off, and I walked thru a field, and... I was at the bottling plant. I am not sure if someone had taken down a No Trespassing sign or not, so we walked a little more. Did not go in the structure, but I took pics of the damage, and then my children in front of the structure, a distant shot. Still... when I had the film developed, Wal-Hell One Hour -- the close ups were all missing. And the lady I was with distinctly remembers me taking pics, too... it's very strange, and I had verified with the attendant at WMart that the film was not tampered with or anything. She explained to me about the number sequencing and they would not be able to alter that. So it leaves me beyond confused... but a handful of pics are missing... the close ups of the damage and weathering and all. And that I wanted. So only one pic of the hotel area turned out, and not the other 5 or 6. Very strange.
Happy Halloween!
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on May 24, 2005 23:07:10 GMT -6
Saturday my son and I took a road trip, and found Kate Blood's gravestone...
It was hard to find, as Fischer had mentioned there are several section D's, that is correct. For a while I felt like I was on a wild goose chase. But then I saw the chained off area... and we were there.
I had not seen one single person in the cemetery that day, for the time I was there. Just amazed at how huge the cemetery was, then again, Appleton is a lot bigger city than the one I am from...
Even if the dates and info don't match up (no way she could have killed her husband, as for he married after her, etc), it was just incredible to be there.
Since getting back, I have talked to a few ppl from a distance who got Riverside in Appleton mixed up with Riverside in Oshkosh, as the cities are very close. (That day as well, I was at Riverside Cemetery in Oshkosh, on Katie's GhostWalk, which was very informative and wonderful, hearing about the history on local families and the grounds!)
My pictures turned out great, full of Spring color. And when we were ready to leave, we picked some lily of the valley and put them on the top of the stone, next to some purple violets.
Just to go back now... under a full moon... *nods* that will be the plan for some other time...
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Oct 30, 2004 2:06:52 GMT -6
I am not from Appleton, but not far away, either. Still, until the Appleton Paranormal Conference, I had never heard this name before. Aparently the ppl behind me in the conference room were familiar with her name, the story and all. And now I want to go there, just to see the grave stone...
I would suggest buying Chad and Terry's book, it has their investigation... even where to find the grave stone. The book is brand new, and you can find info on the front of this web site, on how to order it. Luckily, I knew it would have to be great and ordered several. They were going to be Christmas gifts, but I already gave them out... they are great, and have many other places and happenings around the state. Have fun!
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Oct 20, 2004 15:55:07 GMT -6
Post by LadyOfTheLake on Oct 20, 2004 15:55:07 GMT -6
I just wish you had some type of media coverage in Manitowoc County.
There's only so much Delilah that one can handle, even Rick & Len at times....
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Jul 8, 2005 1:18:44 GMT -6
I remember the old elevator. The dreary hallways.
Some of the people who hung out in the lobby or outside of the building. One guy in particular was always handing out religious information and looked Saintly like Saint Francis. That was oh-so-80's.
My friend who lived there I have not heard from in years. Web searches get me between WI and CA. And then I wonder what became of some of thoe people's lives?
Still when I drive past, I wave to Cathy or Kathy... they say she is still there. Generally I am friendly... therefore I wave.
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Mar 21, 2005 13:42:11 GMT -6
hi! and welcome!!
I had worked so close to there, and was freshly off my lunch break, the day she plunged. I am almost 100% positive it was from the 7th floor, or the 6th, but not the 8th. And it was on the Buffalo side of the building.
I remember the sirens, the ambulance, you name it. It was summer of...1985?
What I remember clear as day was how she used to walk down the street, and stand under the awning of the building I worked at... and smoke a cigarette, and talk to herself. ALOT. She had a conservative and unique look, nothing outlandish, and if you are from this area, I could email you a name of who she looks like (she who is definately alive and kicking!!), you might know who this woman is. Not that it would matter.
I worked at the old Heilemann Bakery, in the corporate office. I was a switchboard operator/receptionist. We always wondered if Kathy/Cathy was one with multiple personalities? We knew nothing.
Long before her death, we heard that she was a *fixture of North 8th*, she did not have a car, she walked everywhere and was a college grad who was burned out from drugs when she was in college. I used to be a patient of Medical Arts/Family practice clinic, near by (now Lakeshore Pediatrics) -- and Kathy was the records manager, I am guessing a somewhat decent job.
I might be able to check with a contact (from the recent construction) on the exact room number, date, etc. if you wish, or steer you in possibly a good direction. let me know...
Due to working on North 8th, I was familiar with a lot of these other statistical type of ppl who lived at the hotel or near by. George. Marie. Woody. Ed. Kathy or Cathy, and so many more...
oh, the memories... and that was all about 19 and 20 years ago...
oh, and Fog, this site has lots on Manitowoc County history. Look for the postings on JFK Prep and Maribel Caves as well. And then there are other places as well... last year I found a new cemetary in the city, and I have been glued to it since...
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Feb 25, 2005 15:30:28 GMT -6
There is open house at this place tomorrow, Saturday -- from 10 a.m. until 2 p.m.
I am determined to go. Just because. And the new and correct name of the place is The Historic Manitowoc Place I think?
I was familiar with the place, in the mid 80's, as a friend lived there. And I worked about 2 blocks away, I guess some of the people who lived there were *Eighth Street Fixtures* if you know what I mean.
And now I will wonder, was the former apt room of Cathy or Kathy, where she plunged to her suicide, done up as any normal room? It was said, that the door still slammed, when no one was around. And the window that she jumped out of was cracked open on occasion.
Sorry for my no participation on this site. I have been back to lurking, and holding my peace. A lot is going on in my life now, it's been a (I did not know it was) "Week to be a pregnant dog" week this week... a few things that had taken place, that have had my blood boiling, and made me come to life and get out the hatchet and swing it.
I almost wish I could turn my life into a Groundhog Day type of thing. Repeat only the best, over and over... like a good day at Walt Disney World, I guess...
carpe diem~
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Nov 15, 2004 22:44:23 GMT -6
Satanic Masses there?
Sheesh *rubs eyes*
Tell me more! I am not into that kind of thing, but just like to hear about something like that, out of the normal.
I had a friend who lived there. Down the hall from the gal who committed suicide. And I remember a strange guy there, named Ed. He was a big BIG Bible Thumper. For me being an avid church goer, this guy made me freak out... just due to the way he was. And that would have been about '84-'86, somewhere in there... and I remember some guy, older, looked like a Mad Cuban, always tried to talk to me when a few of us went there to visit this friend of ours who lived there... this guy had no teeth and would try to talk to us, it was hard to understand him. That all seems so long ago...
Alright, J, tell us more, about your uncle and this building...?
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Nov 12, 2004 13:22:50 GMT -6
Hi! I am guessing you are from this city, if you are thinking of renting one of those places? Guessing you might be a SLC student, as tons plan to live there? To answer your question: yes, I live in Manitowoc.
and if you do now or will soon... you will live only a few miles away from me. Practically walking distance.
I used to work at the old Heilemann Bakery, It used to be Holsum Bread, bought from the thingy family (it was thingy Brother's Bakery, in the 1930's - 1980, then sold to Heilemann -- as in beer -- bakery, which sold to Metz, and then a few others since moving out of Manitowoc, and then, lastly Sara Lee Bakery.
I used to work at the corporate office. I was the company switchboard operator/receptionist in 1983 - 1986, I was there until almost the end. Loved working there. Had a huge window in front of my office that was right across what is now a Bike shop, as well as the movie theatre. And right next door to what is Premier Coffee shop. What used to be my front window is now the chain link fence with the antique tractors. Right on North 8th Street.
I was working one day and a lady named Cathy or Kathy jumped out the window. She lived in an apt on the 5th or 6th floor. Plunged to her death like a tomato falling off a window sill. I was freshly back from my lunch break. Dead.
For the years I had worked at the bakery, this woman used to walk down the street, guessing she had no car or license. Talked to herself all the time. Stood under the canapy by my office and talked, argued with herself. We made jokes of this, never thought of a "real life Cybil" living in our conservative city.
A few years before that, an old high school buddy of mine had moved there, cheap rent. A friend and I would stop and visit, his name was Todd. He said some of the ppl that lived there were strange, and he moved shortly after. Still he thought it was wonderful, living so close to the bars (and there was a bar below, on the first floor, called Capones) ... walking and getting drunk. Know that he was 19 or 20 at the time, drinking age was 18. And he was like my big brother. I knew this lady from standing in the hall on the 5th or 6th floor, as Todd lived on the same floor. And... she always walked up and down the hall, talking to herself. There was a man there, Eugene. He was a born again Christian. After Cathy/Kathy's death, he still talked to her. Outside on the sidewalk, where she had fell, when she committed suicide. This is on the side street, not on North 8th.
Eugene said, after Kathy/Cathy's death, she had still walked the halls, muttered, and went in her room. No clue to who cleared out her apt back then, I don't think she had family here. Kathy/Cathy was a college graduate, and had managed the Medical Records at Medical Arts/Manitowoc Family Practice, back then. She had a good job. Rumor was that her brains were friend from using drugs.
Still -- this was all 20 years ago. I lost contact with Todd. And when we drive past, I wave. Look up at her window and I wave... wondering if she waves back.
This week I have seen some improvements... I suppose the contractors have been getting a lot of the exterior work done for winter is getting here soon!
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Oct 30, 2004 21:11:57 GMT -6
Many, many more construction companies have been at this place, the old Manitowoc Hotel -- in the past week.
Still, if you look down the side street, and UP to atleast the 4th level/floor -- a window or two is boarded over, and it looks really strange.
Has anyone else been observing this place over the last few years? Or is it just me? Heck, when we drive past, I still wave to Kathy (Cathy?) -- and wonder if she waves back...
Happy Halloween, everyone!
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Post by LadyOfTheLake on Oct 13, 2004 15:44:33 GMT -6
I don't see much information on Manitowoc's Evergreen Inn on here... the former Manitowoc Hotel.
As anyone been in there for a walk thru?
Today when driving past, I saw a lot of construction vehicles around, part of the street was blocked off... I guess they are determined to really make something of that building.
The last time I was in there was about 1985 or 1986. A friend was living there, and I used to work down the street, walk there after work and kill time... interesting ppl that used to live there, still, it's been a while (and I lost track of the friend).
Still, I was working down the street at my office the day that the gal had plunged down. Just sad.
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